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JOEL B. SHEFFIELD
Hi,

I have recently started to work with a Thinkpad model X1Yoga, and I
installed ImageJ 64 bit --it went into the program files (x86) directory,
but comes up saying that it uses 64 bits.  Generally there is no problem.
However, I can't seem to get the 3D viewer to work.  I downloaded the Java
3D  program, which self installed into the Program Files directory, but
when I try to look at a stack, I get the following.  I've left off the list
of errors, since this seemed to be critical:

ImageJ 1.51k; Java 1.8.0_112 [64-bit]; Windows 10 10.0; 40MB of 640MB (6%)

java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a AMD
64-bit platform

Any suggestions?  I would be most grateful.

Joel



Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
Department of Biology
Temple University
Philadelphia, PA 19122
Voice: 215 204 8839
e-mail: [hidden email]
URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*

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Re: Problem with 3D Viewer

ctrueden
Hi Joel,

> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
> Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a
> AMD 64-bit platform

Did you try Fiji? Either the newest (Java 8) version, or the 2015 Dec 22
Life-Line version [1]?

See also:
http://imagej.net/Java_3D
http://imagej.net/2016-05-10_-_ImageJ_HOWTO_-_Java_8,_Java_6,_Java_3D

Regards,
Curtis

[1] https://imagej.net/Fiji/Downloads#Life-Line_Fiji_versions

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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:42 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have recently started to work with a Thinkpad model X1Yoga, and I
> installed ImageJ 64 bit --it went into the program files (x86) directory,
> but comes up saying that it uses 64 bits.  Generally there is no problem.
> However, I can't seem to get the 3D viewer to work.  I downloaded the Java
> 3D  program, which self installed into the Program Files directory, but
> when I try to look at a stack, I get the following.  I've left off the list
> of errors, since this seemed to be critical:
>
> ImageJ 1.51k; Java 1.8.0_112 [64-bit]; Windows 10 10.0; 40MB of 640MB (6%)
>
> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
> Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a AMD
> 64-bit platform
>
> Any suggestions?  I would be most grateful.
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> Department of Biology
> Temple University
> Philadelphia, PA 19122
> Voice: 215 204 8839
> e-mail: [hidden email]
> URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
>
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Re: Problem with 3D Viewer

JOEL B. SHEFFIELD
Hi Curtis,

I have tried it with Fiji/Java8, and it does seem to work, although it
takes several minutes to initialize.  Once initialized, though, I can
restart it for different images without a problem.  However, if I close
Fiji, I then have to wait for the program to find itself --there is no
comment in the log, though.

Joel



Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
Department of Biology
Temple University
Philadelphia, PA 19122
Voice: 215 204 8839
e-mail: [hidden email]
URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Curtis Rueden <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Joel,
>
> > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
> > Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a
> > AMD 64-bit platform
>
> Did you try Fiji? Either the newest (Java 8) version, or the 2015 Dec 22
> Life-Line version [1]?
>
> See also:
> http://imagej.net/Java_3D
> http://imagej.net/2016-05-10_-_ImageJ_HOWTO_-_Java_8,_Java_6,_Java_3D
>
> Regards,
> Curtis
>
> [1] https://imagej.net/Fiji/Downloads#Life-Line_Fiji_versions
>
> --
> Curtis Rueden
> LOCI software architect - https://loci.wisc.edu/software
> ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - https://imagej.net/User:Rueden
> Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:42 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have recently started to work with a Thinkpad model X1Yoga, and I
> > installed ImageJ 64 bit --it went into the program files (x86) directory,
> > but comes up saying that it uses 64 bits.  Generally there is no problem.
> > However, I can't seem to get the 3D viewer to work.  I downloaded the
> Java
> > 3D  program, which self installed into the Program Files directory, but
> > when I try to look at a stack, I get the following.  I've left off the
> list
> > of errors, since this seemed to be critical:
> >
> > ImageJ 1.51k; Java 1.8.0_112 [64-bit]; Windows 10 10.0; 40MB of 640MB
> (6%)
> >
> > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
> > Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a AMD
> > 64-bit platform
> >
> > Any suggestions?  I would be most grateful.
> >
> > Joel
> >
> >
> >
> > Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> > Department of Biology
> > Temple University
> > Philadelphia, PA 19122
> > Voice: 215 204 8839
> > e-mail: [hidden email]
> > URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
> >
> > --
> > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> >
>
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ctrueden
Hi Joel,

> I have tried it with Fiji/Java8, and it does seem to work, although it
> takes several minutes to initialize.  Once initialized, though, I can
> restart it for different images without a problem.  However, if I
> close Fiji, I then have to wait for the program to find itself --there
> is no comment in the log, though.

Do you mean that Fiji takes several minutes to launch? Or the 3D Viewer
does?

If you mean Fiji itself, then this is a known (but still mysterious) issue;
see:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160329213850/http://fiji.sc/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=933

Regards,
Curtis

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LOCI software architect - https://loci.wisc.edu/software
ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - https://imagej.net/User:Rueden
Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/


On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:37 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Curtis,
>
> I have tried it with Fiji/Java8, and it does seem to work, although it
> takes several minutes to initialize.  Once initialized, though, I can
> restart it for different images without a problem.  However, if I close
> Fiji, I then have to wait for the program to find itself --there is no
> comment in the log, though.
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> Department of Biology
> Temple University
> Philadelphia, PA 19122
> Voice: 215 204 8839
> e-mail: [hidden email]
> URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Curtis Rueden <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Joel,
> >
> > > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
> > > Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a
> > > AMD 64-bit platform
> >
> > Did you try Fiji? Either the newest (Java 8) version, or the 2015 Dec 22
> > Life-Line version [1]?
> >
> > See also:
> > http://imagej.net/Java_3D
> > http://imagej.net/2016-05-10_-_ImageJ_HOWTO_-_Java_8,_Java_6,_Java_3D
> >
> > Regards,
> > Curtis
> >
> > [1] https://imagej.net/Fiji/Downloads#Life-Line_Fiji_versions
> >
> > --
> > Curtis Rueden
> > LOCI software architect - https://loci.wisc.edu/software
> > ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - https://imagej.net/User:Rueden
> > Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:42 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have recently started to work with a Thinkpad model X1Yoga, and I
> > > installed ImageJ 64 bit --it went into the program files (x86)
> directory,
> > > but comes up saying that it uses 64 bits.  Generally there is no
> problem.
> > > However, I can't seem to get the 3D viewer to work.  I downloaded the
> > Java
> > > 3D  program, which self installed into the Program Files directory, but
> > > when I try to look at a stack, I get the following.  I've left off the
> > list
> > > of errors, since this seemed to be critical:
> > >
> > > ImageJ 1.51k; Java 1.8.0_112 [64-bit]; Windows 10 10.0; 40MB of 640MB
> > (6%)
> > >
> > > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
> > > Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a
> AMD
> > > 64-bit platform
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?  I would be most grateful.
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> > > Department of Biology
> > > Temple University
> > > Philadelphia, PA 19122
> > > Voice: 215 204 8839 <(215)%20204-8839>
> > > e-mail: [hidden email]
> > > URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
> > >
> > > --
> > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> > >
> >
> > --
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> >
>
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Re: Problem with 3D Viewer

JOEL B. SHEFFIELD
No, Fiji launches in a reasonable amount of time --5 seconds or so--but the
viewer seems to take several minutes.  The console comes up immediately,
with the following message,

3D [dev] 1.6.0-scijava-2-pre11-daily-experimental daily

and then there is a long delay before the program itself appears.




Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
Department of Biology
Temple University
Philadelphia, PA 19122
Voice: 215 204 8839
e-mail: [hidden email]
URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Curtis Rueden <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Joel,
>
> > I have tried it with Fiji/Java8, and it does seem to work, although it
> > takes several minutes to initialize.  Once initialized, though, I can
> > restart it for different images without a problem.  However, if I
> > close Fiji, I then have to wait for the program to find itself --there
> > is no comment in the log, though.
>
> Do you mean that Fiji takes several minutes to launch? Or the 3D Viewer
> does?
>
> If you mean Fiji itself, then this is a known (but still mysterious) issue;
> see:
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20160329213850/http://fiji.sc/
> bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=933
>
> Regards,
> Curtis
>
> --
> Curtis Rueden
> LOCI software architect - https://loci.wisc.edu/software
> ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - https://imagej.net/User:Rueden
> Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:37 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Curtis,
> >
> > I have tried it with Fiji/Java8, and it does seem to work, although it
> > takes several minutes to initialize.  Once initialized, though, I can
> > restart it for different images without a problem.  However, if I close
> > Fiji, I then have to wait for the program to find itself --there is no
> > comment in the log, though.
> >
> > Joel
> >
> >
> >
> > Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> > Department of Biology
> > Temple University
> > Philadelphia, PA 19122
> > Voice: 215 204 8839
> > e-mail: [hidden email]
> > URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Curtis Rueden <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Joel,
> > >
> > > > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
> > > > Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a
> > > > AMD 64-bit platform
> > >
> > > Did you try Fiji? Either the newest (Java 8) version, or the 2015 Dec
> 22
> > > Life-Line version [1]?
> > >
> > > See also:
> > > http://imagej.net/Java_3D
> > > http://imagej.net/2016-05-10_-_ImageJ_HOWTO_-_Java_8,_Java_6,_Java_3D
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Curtis
> > >
> > > [1] https://imagej.net/Fiji/Downloads#Life-Line_Fiji_versions
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curtis Rueden
> > > LOCI software architect - https://loci.wisc.edu/software
> > > ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - https://imagej.net/User:Rueden
> > > Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:42 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have recently started to work with a Thinkpad model X1Yoga, and I
> > > > installed ImageJ 64 bit --it went into the program files (x86)
> > directory,
> > > > but comes up saying that it uses 64 bits.  Generally there is no
> > problem.
> > > > However, I can't seem to get the 3D viewer to work.  I downloaded the
> > > Java
> > > > 3D  program, which self installed into the Program Files directory,
> but
> > > > when I try to look at a stack, I get the following.  I've left off
> the
> > > list
> > > > of errors, since this seemed to be critical:
> > > >
> > > > ImageJ 1.51k; Java 1.8.0_112 [64-bit]; Windows 10 10.0; 40MB of 640MB
> > > (6%)
> > > >
> > > > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
> > > > Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a
> > AMD
> > > > 64-bit platform
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions?  I would be most grateful.
> > > >
> > > > Joel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> > > > Department of Biology
> > > > Temple University
> > > > Philadelphia, PA 19122
> > > > Voice: 215 204 8839 <(215)%20204-8839>
> > > > e-mail: [hidden email]
> > > > URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> >
> > --
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> >
>
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ctrueden
Hi Joel,

> Fiji launches in a reasonable amount of time --5 seconds or so--but
> the viewer seems to take several minutes.

Thanks for the clarification. Unfortunately, I do not know what is going
wrong.

You could try taking a thread dump during the freeze [1], although if the
issue is hardware-related, it might not be very enlightening.

Does ClearVolume [2] also boot up super slowly for you?

Regards,
Curtis

[1] http://imagej.net/Troubleshooting#If_ImageJ_freezes_or_hangs
[2] http://imagej.net/ClearVolume

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On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:24 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD <[hidden email]> wrote:

> No, Fiji launches in a reasonable amount of time --5 seconds or so--but the
> viewer seems to take several minutes.  The console comes up immediately,
> with the following message,
>
> 3D [dev] 1.6.0-scijava-2-pre11-daily-experimental daily
>
> and then there is a long delay before the program itself appears.
>
>
>
>
> Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> Department of Biology
> Temple University
> Philadelphia, PA 19122
> Voice: 215 204 8839
> e-mail: [hidden email]
> URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Curtis Rueden <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Joel,
> >
> > > I have tried it with Fiji/Java8, and it does seem to work, although it
> > > takes several minutes to initialize.  Once initialized, though, I can
> > > restart it for different images without a problem.  However, if I
> > > close Fiji, I then have to wait for the program to find itself --there
> > > is no comment in the log, though.
> >
> > Do you mean that Fiji takes several minutes to launch? Or the 3D Viewer
> > does?
> >
> > If you mean Fiji itself, then this is a known (but still mysterious)
> issue;
> > see:
> >
> > https://web.archive.org/web/20160329213850/http://fiji.sc/
> > bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=933
> >
> > Regards,
> > Curtis
> >
> > --
> > Curtis Rueden
> > LOCI software architect - https://loci.wisc.edu/software
> > ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - https://imagej.net/User:Rueden
> > Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:37 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Curtis,
> > >
> > > I have tried it with Fiji/Java8, and it does seem to work, although it
> > > takes several minutes to initialize.  Once initialized, though, I can
> > > restart it for different images without a problem.  However, if I close
> > > Fiji, I then have to wait for the program to find itself --there is no
> > > comment in the log, though.
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> > > Department of Biology
> > > Temple University
> > > Philadelphia, PA 19122
> > > Voice: 215 204 8839
> > > e-mail: [hidden email]
> > > URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Curtis Rueden <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Joel,
> > > >
> > > > > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
> > > > > Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll
> on a
> > > > > AMD 64-bit platform
> > > >
> > > > Did you try Fiji? Either the newest (Java 8) version, or the 2015 Dec
> > 22
> > > > Life-Line version [1]?
> > > >
> > > > See also:
> > > > http://imagej.net/Java_3D
> > > > http://imagej.net/2016-05-10_-_ImageJ_HOWTO_-_Java_8,_Java_
> 6,_Java_3D
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Curtis
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://imagej.net/Fiji/Downloads#Life-Line_Fiji_versions
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Curtis Rueden
> > > > LOCI software architect - https://loci.wisc.edu/software
> > > > ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - https://imagej.net/User:Rueden
> > > > Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:42 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have recently started to work with a Thinkpad model X1Yoga, and I
> > > > > installed ImageJ 64 bit --it went into the program files (x86)
> > > directory,
> > > > > but comes up saying that it uses 64 bits.  Generally there is no
> > > problem.
> > > > > However, I can't seem to get the 3D viewer to work.  I downloaded
> the
> > > > Java
> > > > > 3D  program, which self installed into the Program Files directory,
> > but
> > > > > when I try to look at a stack, I get the following.  I've left off
> > the
> > > > list
> > > > > of errors, since this seemed to be critical:
> > > > >
> > > > > ImageJ 1.51k; Java 1.8.0_112 [64-bit]; Windows 10 10.0; 40MB of
> 640MB
> > > > (6%)
> > > > >
> > > > > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Program
> > > > > Files\ImageJ\jre\bin\j3dcore-ogl.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll
> on a
> > > AMD
> > > > > 64-bit platform
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions?  I would be most grateful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> > > > > Department of Biology
> > > > > Temple University
> > > > > Philadelphia, PA 19122
> > > > > Voice: 215 204 8839 <(215)%20204-8839>
> > > > > e-mail: [hidden email]
> > > > > URL:  *http://tinyurl.com/khbouft <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> > >
> >
> > --
> > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> >
>
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